• Krafty Kactus@sopuli.xyz
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    11 months ago

    I mean if you think about it, the default of humanity is to die of thirst assuming we were to do nothing so ‘earning a living’ is just a realistic expectation for any society.

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      11 months ago

      If you follow that reasoning, the ultimate conclusion is that it’s perfectly fine to let sick or disabled people die.

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        11 months ago

        Let them … well yes eventually you will have to let them, as you can’t stop them.

        Forcing them along that path though, yeah that’s not cool.

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          11 months ago

          I don’t see what point you’re trying to make, unless you think I need a reindeer reminder that everyone eventually dies.

  • bastion@feddit.nl
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    11 months ago

    You do have a right to be alive, if you can gather the food to put in your mouth and get shelter (in most climates), and defend yourself from predators.

    ‘Earning a living’ is just some way people can do that. But you still need to defend against the predators.

    • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      11 months ago

      Take your eugenics pseudoscience bullshit and shove it up your ass.

      There is no if. We’re a social species, if everyone thought like you, people like Stephen Hawking would have never lived a full life.

      We lose so many good people to the “earn it” mentality.

      Babies don’t come out the womb walking. Nor are people born with the ability to hunt. Everything you have was given to you by another. Your mother didn’t ask you to earn it until you could, and whether or not people can is largely determined by their environment.

      Not to mention, how fucking arrogant do you have to be to demand someone earn the right to live? Who do you think you are, God?

      And then there is the little problem of capitalism rewarding people who “earned it” who are actually bad for society. Unless you think people like Biden and Trump somehow are more competent than most people? Both are rich and powerful people. Yet one is a genocidal asshole and the other is a con man. You’d have to be crazy to think they earned their power. I’d wager there are many homeless people that do less harm to the world than either.

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    11 months ago

    You need to consume to live. This means you need to manipulate your surroundings in order to survive. So you need to work to have your basic needs meet. You don’t just get to live with zero effort.

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        11 months ago

        We can provide shitty cheap unhealthy food to everyone sure. It wouldn’t be easy but yeah we could probably do that. But we absolutely would not be able to give people the kind of food they actually need.