Summary
Salwan Momika, the Iraqi man who staged several Quran burnings in Sweden in 2023, was shot and killed in Sodertalje, near Stockholm.
His actions had sparked international outrage, riots, and diplomatic tensions. Swedish police confirmed a murder investigation is underway, and several arrests have been made.
Momika, who sought asylum in Sweden in 2018, faced charges of incitement to hatred, with a verdict scheduled for the day after his death.
His protests were permitted under free speech laws but led to legal action against him.
killed? someone who’s runover by a train is killed, the guy in this article was murdered for someone else’s invisible friend.
it’s murder.
Yeah tbh as a Muslim it’s pretty tiring and offensive to read all of that shit when most of us are just busy living our lives like everyone else. And we’re here on the supposedly progressive and liberal Lemmy…
It’s also super tiring to read all the ahmadullilah comments under the TRT post on YouTube about this. Kind of offensive too, you know.
I’m with you 100% combatting islamophobia everywhere, but I don’t see much in terms of combatting …islamic-supremacy(?), see I don’t even know what to call it. We don’t even name it. It’s not “Islamism” because that means anything and nothing, it’s not “Islamic extremism” because that’s like the maniacs. What do we call the low key thing? The one that feeds into the culture war on the muslim side?
Idk man YouTube, TikTok, Meta, doesn’t matter all social media platforms are anyway just feeding on rage bait and I’m pretty sure they have significantly radicalized millions if not hundreds of millions at this point.
To them it doesn’t matter if you’re cheering for ISIS or Hitler or Israel, they just care about more engagement so that some product teams can show some engagement & add KPIs going up during performance review season.
Idk I think some kind of supremacy is accurate here indeed? Some seek white supremacy, other ethnic supremacy, religious supremacy, it’s all the same poison to me.
Well said. ✌️
Liberals really hate Nazis.
Unless the Nazi is being Nazi against Muslims instead of Jews. Then they love free speech.
As the saying goes, the only good Nazi
So wanting freedom from religious persecution is the same as being a Nazi now?
Interesting, I did not know that
He was free from religious persecution. Turns out he was the person who was doing the religious persecution and wanted to keep doing it.
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He was murdered. I’m assuming for a second that it’s because of his actions prior, and with that assumption he will literally have been religiously persecuted.
Turns out you’re full of it
His Twitter profile background was a flag of Israel. Was he persecuted by Palestinians?
He was a asshole, but he sound have been free and safe to be an asshole.
Fuck religion
I’m not for the death penalty or killing people generally (very rare exceptions, maybe).
That said, he did it to rile up millions of people with hate speech (for them it is I bet), so like don’t do that or you might face consequences.
Free speech isn’t about the right to hate speeching. What a douchebag.
Edit: idiot below trying to frame it I think you shouldn’t “blasphemy”. No lol go ahead and blasphemy all you want, that’s free speech IMO.
Blasting religion for its cruelty is always appreciated.
Too bad he was a raging hypocrite who targeted Muslims due to himself being targeted as a Christian. Religion is gonna religion until they all stop believing the nonsense or everyone gets converted (alive or dead).
Being offended is not a justification for killing nor is it hate speech.
Where the hell do you see me saying killing is okay? I say literally the opposite.
Also, he did hate speech, he was on trial for it, read the article!
Are you one of the bigots trying to stir things up or what the hell is your agenda?
No agenda. Free speech absolutist. Criticism of a topic no matter how offensive must be allowed.
Publicly burning symbols of a minority group or a world view is an incitement to violence against that group or people holding that world view.
It has nothing to do with constructive criticism. It is symbolizing a violent act, with the goal to incite more violence.
It is more offensive to kill someone rather than destroying a book. Any group of people that kills over offense is a danger to their society and the world.
Any group of people that kills over offense is a danger to their society and the world.
Which group? How do you define that group? Do you think groups of people should be collectively punished for the actions of individuals of that group?
Also i fail to see why incitement to kill people, which is the ultimate goal of the book burning becomes acceptable, because killing people is worse? Is every lesser crime acceptable? is every hate speech acceptable? Is everything acceptable that falls short of killing someone?
I think it should be obvious that lesser crimes are still crimes and i think it should be obvious, that hate speech against minorities is particular problematic, as it leads to killing people of that minority, which as you point out is the most severe crime.
If a group of people collectively is outraged enough to kill over a certain value system, they should be mocked, ridiculed, and ostracized for that belief. In the united states we have radicals that will kill over abortion. They are mocked and ridiculed. If Muslims get offended, they should be mocked and ridiculed for being soft.
Burning a book is not a “lesser crime.” It is speech. If you are offended, how about you put your big boy pants on and act like a man and get over it.
Im against hate speech but it should not be criminalized. Violent speech can be. “This person should be killed” then a overt act made towards violence should be criminal.
But if Muslims get so upset about a book buring and kill, then Muslims are in the wrong and need to realize this is the real world and people don’t bow down to babies that cry about offense.
Seems like he got what he wanted.
Freedom from religious persecution?
He got the exact opposite of what he wanted you daft idiot
In what way was he being religiously persecuted in Sweden before burning Korans? If you don’t think he intended provocation with such stunts, then you might be the draft idiot here. Again: justified? No. Predictable? Yes.
free from persecution as long as he goes along with it
Isn’t freedom
Lol. Are you unfree just because there’s no limit to the offense you can cause before someone hurts you for it? Have you never agreed with the phrase “FAFO” or “talk shit get hit”?
In what way?
Well, being murdered would be one way?
Damn he got murdered before burning Korans? Incredible he was still able to burn them then.
Don’t be coy, you know perfectly nwell what I mean.
He was murdered because of religious persecution.
I’ve burned thousands of Qurans, it’s quite easy, you just download one and copy it a thousand times on a USB. Should I deserve death now too at the hands of extremist sky daddy worshippers?
I’m not being coy. You can do whatever you like, and no, you don’t “deserve death” for that. But the idea that you are being persecuted is in your imagination. Do I deserve death if I piss on the motorcycle of a Hells Angel? Am I persecuted if I am beaten for it? There was zero reason (other than provocation) for burning those Korans. He intended to provoke, and he succeeded. Congratulations.
there was zero reason for burning those Korans
You are either spectacularly naive, or just plain lying your ass off, or you’re just trolling and honestly I’m not sure which it is.
He burned those Korans because one must be able to do that without being murdered. I am all against book burning but when a single book is burned to prove a point, I’m all for it.
In this case, the point was made by Muslims that they’re insane terrorist skydaddy believers who will murder anyone they disagree with. Fuck. That. Shit.
He died for destroying a book, for burning paper, no human was hurt and he died because some religious extremist can’t control themselves.
Great example of how religion needs to be properly regulated.
He was absolutely trying to get a reaction. I’m not saying that it’s good that he got the one he did, I’m just saying it was predictable.
It’s predictable because the religious are mentally ill and dangerous
Very brave sentiment, and I applaud you for it!
You knew what you were saying and how you were saying it.
We’re past the point where the avg person is ignorant to dog whistles.
Read it again, dopey.
Fuck it, now I kind of want to burn a Quran or Bible for funsies.
momika did it specifically to spark outrage among immigrants. don’t do that.
Nah fuck that, If muslims cant handle it they should look the other way like they do when women are stoned to death for showing their hair.
Good one. Throw in another joke in about Jews owning all the banks, newspapers and an elite pedo sex ring cabal. Haha. Aren’t these racist jokes funny?
One of them is true and one is racist. Guess which is which
There are at least 8 countries that apply sharia as their modus in criminal and family law.
Yemen, Saudi arabia, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, mauretania and Ethiopia.
You think that’s funny?
And thats not even mentioning the backwards ass Christian countries that also apply the Bible to criminal law.
Great list of countries colonized by the West. America implement that Sharia law for them? That freedom and liberalism really inspired them.
Oh, right. I forgot that everything is Americas fault. Especially the islamic theocracy. Has nothing to do with the fact that every sovereign power in the middle east funds fundamentalist insurgents in each others countries to destabalize them.
Pakistan, i’m looking at you.
