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    25 days ago

    Gitmo should have been shut down two decades ago. Torture, waterboarding, “advanced interrogation techniques” … don’t think we forgot about that. It’s a shame that no American president had the courage to close down dirty military institutions.

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      24 days ago

      Stop. This is so fucked up. This has nothing to do with president’s of christmas past. This is the current president opening a concentration camp. Just stop with this false equivalence.

      Edit: the both siders are really coming in in force now.

      Edit2: It’s really sad after everything people would upvote this both sides bullshit. If we put kamala in the white house do you think there is even a 1% chance she would open a concentration camp at gitmo? 40+ people upvoted this propaganda and haven’t learned a god damn thing.

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        Over turning Bush II’s policies were the primary reason I voted for Obama. Since then, I’ve only depressingly voted for democrats on the basis that they would at least slow the rise of fascism.

        This isn’t “both sides”, but if we couldn’t get gitmo closed with democrats, how could we do it with bold faced fascists?

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          25 days ago

          Oh, so the expectation was always that a authoritarian was going to seize control of the federal government and open a concentration camp there? Funny, cause I never heard that argument but, yeah, sure, completely salient now.

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            Bush II was already fascist and used gitmo for exactly that. It’s specifically outside the US border so they can make an argument that American civil rights laws don’t apply there. At the very least, press and public can’t reach it.

            People were screaming from the top of their lungs about this exact scenario. Yes, this was expected and we cared too much about the economy to care.

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            25 days ago

            You’re talking like it hasn’t always been a concentration camp. If liberals bothered to hold their own people accountable and have an actual red line that couldn’t be crossed, someone like Trump could have never made it into office.

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              24 days ago

              The most gitmo ever held was maybe 700-800 people. Trumps talking 30000. Just because it’s a building and war crimes are done there doesn’t mean it’s a concentration camp.

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                24 days ago

                People are still being held there, with no due process for over 20 years.

                1 person being held with no due process is as bad as 30000.

                Liberals and their fucking trump derangement syndrome keep fighting the wrong things.

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                  1 person being held with no due process is as bad as 30000.

                  Please explain this one to me, because I’m not understanding your math.

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                    23 days ago

                    If one person is being unjustly denied their right to freedom under law it’s just as bad as if 30000 are being denied their right to freedom under the law.

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                  “Once a cop is responsible for 1 murder he may as well continue to kill because 1 murder is the same as 30,000 murders.”