• Riddick3001@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    In case you wanna know whom they were trying to kill; it was Armin Papperger, the head of German arms manufacturer Rheinmetall.

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      26 days ago

      Weirdly enough Im kinda alright with weapon merchants or anyone similar involved in profiteering from war taking a personal toll in it themselves.

      Didnt Ukraine assasinate some russian missile specialist a while back with the west applauding it after finding out? Dont play games you dont want to have a part in seems highly fitting here. There are plenty of other ways to make a decent living.

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        25 days ago

        Idk if you’re just trolling, but I’m a prototype engineer and I can’t, and would refuse if asked, to work on a weapons system. It’s even extremely difficult to decide to accept a defensive only tech, unless it’s apparent it could never be used for offensive purposes(I’d build a technological marvel of a wall, but nothing that moves), and that frankly hurts financially, Dar’s money in dem dar weapons manufacturing… But I will not have MY technology used to kill innocents.

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          24 days ago

          Im not.

          As long as we’re fine with killing the enemies weapon engineers we should expect the same to ours without complaints.

      • ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        25 days ago

        I think it’s sick that people downvote this in the name of civility. I understand people not wanting to make a super solid link between wealthy magic bean salesmen and societal issues and seeing it as a slippery slope, but the weapons industry? Fucking come on.

        If you profit from the most literal form of human suffering, you are a statistical outlier even among outliers. I can’t think of many less ethical things to enrich yourself from than making the world a deadlier place.

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          25 days ago

          It’s not out of civility, and I think there are good reasons to dislike Armin Papperger; for example him being a filthy stinking rich CEO and him allowing deals with non-European countries. But, we need our militaries and we need our weapons industry. The military aid we sent to Ukraine did not materialize out of thin air. The pacifist position of “war bad, weapons bad, people making weapons bad” is infantile. If we stopped making weapons, Russia, or someone else, would waltz right in. Our military (and by extension the weapons industry) is what enables any of our diplomacy to not be completely ignored by nuclear bullies like Russia. A Russian plot to kill Armin Papperger is an attack against us, Germany, the west, NATO, not him individually.

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    26 days ago

    From the linked article:

    there had been no concrete attempt to murder Papperger but rather a “plot.”

    Meh. Every country draws up plans like these all the time. It’s not really news unless they move to act on it.

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      26 days ago

      Typical exaggeration by the media then.

      The US too drafted a plan to invade the Netherlands “just in case” the International Court decided that the US should follow international law.

      I’m guessing a slow news day at Politico

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          26 days ago

          to state sponsored assainations of private citizens.

          You’re talking about the US’ policy abroad here, right?

          Comparing strategic war plans

          Or is this your attempt at justifying drafting plans to invade a friendly country?

          Either way…whatever you gotta tell yourself

      • tal@lemmy.today
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        26 days ago

        The US too drafted a plan to invade the Netherlands

        No. The US, at one point, stated that it would use any and all means necessary to prevent ICC prosecution of US servicemembers.

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          26 days ago

          The US, at one point, stated that it would use any and all means necessary to prevent ICC prosecution of US servicemembers…

          …including, but not limited too, carrying an offensive attack on a friendly NATO country, to cover up any possible attempts at justice.

          Nice effort at jedi mind tricking your way around it lol

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      24 days ago

      We are literally in the perfect scenario, where we don’t even need to fight the Russians, as long as we WOULD GET OUR ASSES UP AND PROPERLY ARM UKRAINE!!!

      this is so beyond me There are literally people in Ukraine that WANT to go to the trenches, and all we would need to do is give them superior firepower…