• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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          2 hours ago

          So you’re not simply claiming the events weren’t as described. You’re claiming they didn’t happen at all, and there was no transfer of power at all? Wow.

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            2 hours ago

            That is not at all what I claimed and I don’t understand how you could interpret what I said as meaning that.

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              2 hours ago

              So then clarify. What did you mean? What is your point? What is your claim?

              Because it sounds like you’re just pushing NATO propaganda with no actual understanding of the events. You’re not claiming one narrative has credibility over another version of events. You’re just proclaiming blanket denial.

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                2 hours ago

                I’m saying that Euromaidan was a popular revolt against the corrupt, pro-Russian government which the CIA has no meaningful influence on.

                I don’t understand where this “blanket denial” stuff is coming from.

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                    41 minutes ago

                    I am not. You’re just parroting the nonsense the whores of the Kremlin have been putting out for a decade.

                    There was never any promise by the US not let Ukraine into NATO. Even if there was, Russia has done enough to justify saying that promise doesn’t matter anymore.

                    Sure, the US supported Euromaidan. That doesn’t make it a CIA plot. Why shouldn’t we support protests against a corrupt, authoritarian regime backed by our biggest opponent on the international stage? You and the overestimated Mr. Sachs reach the conclusion that because Ukraine leaving the Russian sphere was in America’s interest, America must have acted to cause it, despite the total lack of actual evidence.

                    Here’s an idea: maybe Russia wouldn’t have to worry about encirclement if it didn’t constantly threaten it’s neighbors.