My mother, born, raised, and still lives in Norway, was anti-mask during COVID and refused to take the vaccine because of micro-robots (and the scary 5G towers), so we all know where she stands in certain topics. She also believes that Zelenskyy is the reason for Russia invading Ukraine…
Anyhoo, I was talking to her then other day, and she told me that I need to stop reading anti-propaganda. I laughed and asked if she could explain it, which she, of course, could not, but she said it’s a wording being used online all the time. I don’t frequent the sites she does, and I’ve known she’s been reading conspiracies for at least 10 years, but anti-propaganda? Does words not have meaning anymore?
If you ask me, anti-propaganda is facts, but hey, I might be wrong, considering English is my second language.
This is not true and I wish it wouldn’t be repeated ad infinitum.
I used to be a pretty hardcore christian and used logic to completely get rid of religion in my life.
I think there’s a disconnect here.
I also used to be a hardcore Christian and did the same thing. But the fact is, my own lived experience brought me out of it. No one could have sinply talked me out of my beliefs. It was literally all I knew. These were conclusions I had to come to on my own, because I was questioning them to begin with.
If I was not questioning the validity of it to start, I would not have looked for new amounts of information.
If people are not curious or open enough, they will stay in what they perceive to be their “truth”, with no amount of logic being able to sway them.
Basically, if they’re not searching for truth, presenting them with truth will not sway them.
It is not logical to take Christianity as a representation of all other religions.
For a debate about similarities and differences between the Abrahamic religions i can recommend to have a look at this informative and entertaining Panel.
Jews and Muslims also think many Christian concepts to be illogical, especially the concept of Trinity or Jesus as son of God, which we see in contradiction to the oneness of God.
The claim was that you can’t logic someone out of something that they didn’t logic themselve into.
I did not logic myself into having faith that christianity is true but I did logic myself out of it.
The thing is that there have to be an incentive to receive and accept that logic. Something beyond logic.
You can’t use logic against someone who is completely emotionally invested in a cause. They need to somehow be open to contradiction, which most cultists certainly aren’t.
So in that respect it could be said that you didn’t logic yourself out of it, because you had already accepted contradiction to your beliefs before you started using logic.