Too bad money goes directly to the publisher to decide who gets what.

My dad is a huge MAGA guy and a postmaster. Also set to retire in 3 years. He thinks this is all fake news and Trump is “cleaning up” things. Can’t wait till he gets cleaned up and we get to have that convo.

I’ve said it before, why would he would have to? Having to do something is usually due to the fact that not doing it is illegal. Trump doesn’t care about the law. He would just say “no” and then nothing happens like usual.

The thing is, for that to have teeth there needs to be a credible threat to him. There isn’t one right now.

Blair Mountain? These are entirely different. The labor rights I mentioned were 17 years after that. Blair mountain was in 1921, fair labor standards was 1938. They are not the same thing. And triangle shirtwaist was 10 more years before that and had nothing to do with workers rights, it was an accident that exposed safety issues, not some attack. This is more dishonesty. The incident I mentioned move forward without violence. Other instances having violence doesn’t change that.

Yes there were bombings, sure. There are always radicals, tell me how it moved the needle. Doesn’t prove anything.

See, the problem with the statement that there always has to be violence is that it’s an absolute statement. One instance to the contrary proves it wrong. This idea also puts forward this idea that violence is the ONLY way to make progress. So if you want change, start hurting people. That’s so wrong, factually.

Then you bring in deaths from the depression? What? This is all over the place, those deaths were not the result of people acting for change, those are victims of the economy. Not every death ever is for a cause.

But maybe I’m wrong, how many people died or got hurt in attacks for marriage equality? Because I remember it all being very legislative in nature. Sure there were hate crimes, but that’s not violence effecting change, it was the thing that needed to change.

No I’m not?

The comment was made that violence is needed for any change. Violence happens because of issues, but violence did not help move these forward. Unless you can explain how.

Lol ok, since you want to be pedantic, let’s really get into some details, because you’re just wrong about MLK to start.

Civil Rights Act of 1964

How did it happen? The Civil Rights Movement itself was largely nonviolent, with most of the violence happening towards protestors. Figures like Martin Luther King Jr. emphasized civil disobedience, boycotts, and peaceful protests.

Women suffrage

Though some suffragettes engaged in civil disobedience, the broader movement relied on lobbying, protests, and legal appeals. That was the bulk. What you’re calling out is one offs and trying to act like that was the norm or bulk of the movement. It was not.

Marriage Equality

Obergefell v. Hodges Supreme Court decision legalized same-sex marriage nationwide. No violence needed.

Disability Rights Movement, also known as the ADA

Advocates lobbied for equal rights through demonstrations and legal battles. This resulted in the ADA being passed in 1990

The Fair Labor Standards Act (1938) – Ending Child Labor & Establishing Minimum Wage

Labor unions and activists pushed for reforms through strikes, negotiations, and legal battles.

The Voting Rights Act (1965) – Protecting Minority Voter Rights

The Selma to Montgomery March and other efforts, led by MLK and civil rights groups, put pressure on the government.

Title IX (1972) – Gender Equality in Education & Sports

Women’s rights activists lobbied for equal educational opportunities. This endned gender discrimination in schools receiving federal funding, revolutionizing women’s sports and education.

Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell Repeal (2011) – Allowing Open LGBTQ+ Military Service

LGBTQ+ advocates, veterans, and lawmakers worked for repeal.

So while you’d argue I’m being naive, I’d argue that you’re not informed enough about the topic to make such statements. Especially such absolute statements like “every American movement has used violence” when that is objectively wrong. I don’t remember the great Marriage Equality rioters killing people, or the War of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.

Please stop spreading misinformation.

Edit: lol some people are mad that facts don’t line up with their world view.

Wow, right to making assumptions to justify yourself. Assuming I am for cancelling people at all (I’m not, it’s stupid), and assuming I don’t want to cancel him because he’s black (who cares about race like this, it’s telling that is the first thing you jumped to though).

Is this how you from opinions and world views? Just strong baseless assumptions then accusations based on those assumptions, really?

It has before. Women didn’t get the right to vote from a massive war. Martin Luther King wasn’t an army general. You’re being just as dismissive and ignorant as the other guy.

Linking a ten year old article about someone to judge what their doing now seems a bit off. If he’s such a racist is there any proof that isn’t a decade old?

But I like, need food, almost every day

I think knowing something like office software helps since that novel problem. Knowing how to do a pivot table can get you an outcome you need in a fraction of the time if you don’t know how to do one. You need to know how to use the tools to create a solution.

Nah, supreme court thought it would be a good idea to say the president can’t break the law.

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I had to scroll too far for this. If your child is a school and there’s an emergency, or your husband gets into an accident, or a million other very important things. You’ll just get back to them whenever? This seems borderline neglectful.

… Nods “Ok”

Wow, dismissive of people’s efforts and non-stop insulting. Sounds like you’re not just ignorant, but full of misguided hate. I’m doing with this nonsense, stay angry.

Interesting read, thanks

I won’t argue Matthew since either way you look at it, it’s bad. Right there we’ve shown not everything he says is loving.

Yes, everyone had slaves. But slavery is slavery, I’m not interested in the different flavors of slavery or justifying it because everyone did it. Jesus speaking about it and relating his people to slaves while not condemning it seems evil af to me. It’s owning people, it’s clearly wrong.

I don’t misunderstand the difference, but you seem to think Jewish slavery was apparently not that big of a deal. I think owning someone, even if they seem like part of the family, is still wrong. Indentured servitude is wrong. Trying to split hairs is just justifying it. Jesus said “and a servant who knows what the master wants, but isn’t prepared and doesn’t carry out those instructions, will be severely punished.” Doesn’t sound loving to me.

Here are some of the rules for Jewish slaves, and the consequences for hurting them

• A master who knocked out a slave’gs eye or tooth must let him go free. No punishment, you just get to be free without an eye now.

• If a master beat or harmed a slave, the slave could go free. Again no punishment, you just get to actually be free

Kind seems like they aren’t treated fair. Jesus could have said something about that, but he never did. In fact he spoke to it without issue.

Can I see evidence or info you have of those historical accounts?