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  • No number of innocent people incarcerated on bad evidence is acceptable, much less executed. That’s why I’m saying the standard of evidence would need to be extremely high. Your argument is that there would inevitably be people executed who were innocent, but I don’t believe that needs to be the case. Standards could be such that having the crime on video is required or direct witnessing from multiple unimpeachable sources.

    Is the standard of evidence and possibility of false convictions really your main concern here or do you just not think the State should ever execute people on moral grounds? Because I believe I’ve provided an acceptable answer to the former argument; if your issue is actually the latter then I believe we simply have a difference in ethical beliefs.


  • I don’t want it as a deterrent and I’m very aware there have been cases where convictions have turned out to be false. Obviously, the standards for evidence need to be very high. But some people do not deserve to live. And I’m not so certain about it not bringing some degree of closure to families; it certainly isn’t an antidote to grief and loss, but knowing the person who tortured and killed your loved one gets to keep living out their own life, even if behind bars can certainly haunt you as an injustice.

    I’m aware of all the arguments against it, and I’ve changed my mind about this issue a couple times. It’s not something I take lightly at all. Still, I think in exceptionally vile and clear cases, it should be allowed.



  • You have compassion for us Americans, and that’s nice, but bear in mind we voted for this. As much as the people who voted for Trump may have done so out of desperation, we still made a catastrophically stupid decision. Trump isn’t the problem, he’s a symptom. The problem lies in the American people. We have been squashed by both our government and our corporations. We need a wake-up call, and if that means we need to suffer from our own choices then so be it. Maybe we haven’t suffered enough yet. If we’re so dumb that we vote for a malignant narcissist like Donald Trump, maybe we need to be squashed a bit more. We have the power to take back our country, we just need the will to do it. Maybe that comes from more hardship and regret. Maybe that comes from more suffering.

    But maybe not. Maybe I’m wrong. I’m so disappointed with my own countrymen right now, maybe I’m not seeing things clearly. I don’t know. But I know we deserve what we voted for. The world doesn’t, and that’s a tragedy, but maybe America needs to take a hit and the world needs to rely less on us for both America and the world to be better. Again, I don’t know.




  • I understand. But I still stand by what I said. Voting for Trump speaks to a severe problem in EQ if not IQ, and people with intellectual deficits that severe tend not to be able to improve upon them. More people voted for him his second time than the first. That alone speaks to their short-sightedness and short memory. There was also much more information available to them about his character and his tyrannical agenda for his second term. These are not smart folks and I do not have high hopes that they can learn from their mistakes. An anti-gay parent who only changes their stance when their own child comes out hasn’t really learned anything, they’ve just adjusted their behavior based on self-interest. These folks are no different.


  • I hear your point and I think about that a lot, actually. Yes, what I said above was pithy and judgmental, but I also think it has a vein of truth in it.

    I’ve dropped friends over their support for Trump, precisely because they fail to see what I deem to be obvious character flaws in him. That they can’t see those flaws speaks to an enormous lack of psychological perceptiveness. Can they realize they made a mistake in voting for him? I think they can regret it when the things he does negatively affect them, but that doesn’t mean their ability to judge character improves. What I meant by my statement above is that my confidence in people with such critical problems in empathy to fix those problems is extremely low.

    I hope that more extensive explanation of my point makes it clear I’m not simply dismissing an entire class of people under a stereotype. I genuinely think supporting Trump speaks to a severe problem in psychological appraisal that is not easily rectified.