ObjectivityIncarnate

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  • No, it would not be a valid concern. If your accusation is not a lie, you’d be fine.

    Many attackers may be content to escape with a “not guilty” ruling if the prosecution isn’t able to prove their case but some are certain to try and hit back through the legal system

    If there is zero evidence of deliberate lying, how do you expect such an attempt to ever go anywhere, much less reach a courtroom?

    The only way I could see such a thing even getting off the ground immediately after trial is if, during that trial, direct evidence of lying came to light (e.g. video recording of the event in question showing an obviously-consensual sex act, or no sex act at all, or evidence of the accuser admitting the accusation to be a lie, etc.).

    The vast majority of accused would not be in any position to ‘retaliate’ this way, and the few who are, only are because they’re justified in doing so.



  • As much as I’d like the justice of having her prison sentence extended by the length of time each player would have been facing, I don’t think it’s a good idea in general. Wouldn’t want to discourage survivors of rape from coming forward with legitimate accusations due to fear of repercussions if the evidence is not sufficient to convict their attacker.

    I can’t believe how often I still see this sentiment.

    This does not make any sense. Do not equate ‘the accused wasn’t convicted’ with ‘we have proof the accusation was a deliberate lie’, the latter absolutely does not automatically follow from the former.

    A separate trial would need to occur to convict the false accuser–the lack of a conviction in the accused’s trial, in and of itself, would obviously (I’d think) not be sufficient to levy any sort of punishment on the accuser.

    The only people a hypothetical measure like this would be discouraging are the false accusers. No actual victim, nor even anyone whose accusation is false for reasons other than them lying (e.g. mistaken identity) would be affected at all.

    It’s important to take this weapon away from those people malicious enough to lie about something like this. A much more severe punishment for being proven to have tried to ruin someone’s life this way is a good step in that direction, I think. No one should have the power to ruin someone’s life with a single lie.

    The Innocent Project website is a sobering look at what happens when there is nothing deterring false accusers from wielding that weapon.






  • This is completely unrealistic.

    A UBI of just $10,000 a year, and only to all working age Americans, would still cost several trillion dollars, every year.

    Even if you could wave a magic wand and convert the combined net worth of all of the US’s billionaires to cash 1:1, that cash wouldn’t fund even that meager amount of UBI for more than a couple of years.