Small update: I didn’t get any reaction (so far). The post in their about community has zero votes or interactions. I’ve then escalated things and filed a bug report on the bot’s project page. Also with no reply in the last 3 days. So I guess either they’re busy with other stuff and their “bridge” bot is practically unsupervised… Or they don’t care… So I’d say your gut feeling was correct. I’ll give them some more time, 9 or 3 days isn’t a lot for a hobby side-project… But I think at some point, Fediverse admins might want to think about de-federating and effectively shunning them, if it turns out that instance is effectively unmoderated and pulls in problematic content, and isn’t even liked by a good part of the user base here.

Kind of a bummer to be honest. But the whole place looks abandoned. The instance hasn’t seen updates in more than a year. There aren’t any posts by a human for a year. Their posts don’t really get interacted with… And there are deletions in their modlog, but always with quite some time in between.

Two things to consider:

• It’s likely illegal to take other people’s content and re-publish it on your own terms
• Peertube admins have to pay for storage. So don’t dump random noise there. It has to be useful / worth it. Especially if you make someone else pay for the server space.

I don’t think the internet gave particularly good advice here. Sure, there are use-cases for both, and that’s why we have both approaches available. But you can’t say VMs are better than containers. They’re a different thing. They might even be worse in your case. But I mean in the end, all “simple thruths” are wrong.

I’m not sure what OP meant but I think none of the comments here are nailing it. If we say, we can’t do anything unless it’s 100% certain that all instances comply with the protocol, we might scrap the whole Fediverse idea altogether. Any post or comment or vote or deletion could be tempered with in one way or another. I mean we’re clearly making an effort here to do federation. I don’t really agree with the why and how of the whole discussion. My own point is, the software seems to have some bugs. Rarely, some comments and posts don’t federate to me correctly, and more often than that, deletions don’t federate correctly. Which seems to be one of OP’s problems, but also while dealing with spam or malicious activities.

On the other hand, everyone who thinks it’s super easy to just delete everything has never had a look at the consequences. Moderators and Admins sometimes need to deal with bad people, there are technical reasons involved. And bad people also misuse features. It’s complicated for several reasons, difficult to get it right and it’s always a balance between opposing legitimate interests.

But with that said, this doesn’t apply to bugs. Lemmy should at least iron out the software bugs to federate activities to other instances properly.

Fair enough. I guess we can skip the other options then, at least for your case. The replacement isn’t implemented in a very thoughtful way, I agree. For technical reasons, you can’t have it your way either. A platform with tree-style comments or replies can’t have a comment in-between deleted entirely, or the rest of the tree will collapse. So there needs to be some empty placeholder. Or you just can’t use platforms which allow users to reply to each other, but that’s more a you-problem. I agree though, if you delete it, it can’t have your username or content left behind. Thanks for raising this concern. I’m not sure if anyone ever put it on the agenda for Lemmy.

Damn leechers. And doubly so. First they steal the books, and then they don’t even give back to the pirates. And it’s not like Anna’s Archive or Libgen weren’t struggling already. So Meta is just harming everyone involved.

Sure. Question is: How can we improve? Is this a symptom for another missing feature? Or do we want to not address it and just provide one nuclear option? Would you for example like a feature for ephermeral comments, which auto-destruct after a week or so? PieFed has something like that for posts. Or the ability to categorize comments so you can find them later on? Or an option to (regularly) wipe your history, so you don’t have to delete the whole account…

That’s why I ask for exact reasons, and not just a vague feeling about how the platform is bad… I mean it is for some edge-cases like this. And I don’t see how Lemmy would improve on this in the near future. Seems some of the groundworks still don’t work properly. But this doesn’t have to apply to other Fediverse software.

And sometimes I struggle to relate. I for example don’t post anything on social media that’s very private in nature. So I don’t really have the use-case where I post someting publicly on social media, but then I want it gone at the same time. I suppose we just post different things, because I can see how you wouldn’t have your daily state of mind available forever.

Exactly. And I sometimes find myself in the position where internet enshittification and content vanishing harms me more than it helps. So I’d like to balance this with the other side of the medal, where people might have legitimate interest to do so. But so far the argument has been “just because”. And for me, that argument doesn’t tip the scale to their direction. I still have tangible arguments not to over-delete. While the other side seems to be very theoretical.

Tl;dr: Yes, it’s complicated.

Hmmh. I think 1) just means it has to be implemented properly. But you’re right. That sounds exactly like something a developer would do. Unlink the information and at the same time add a timestamp that immediately links it again 😅

And I’m not sure about 3) I’d have to read the GDPR again. Afaik it just mandates the user is provided with the ability to do so. Not that it needs to be the default.

And 2) is kind of my question. I suppose a user who is about to delete their account, might not be super relaxed and ready to deal with the intricate details. I mean they could be pissed and want out asap. Or something happened and they need to get it over with, quickly. Either way, it’s probably not the right time to bother them with 500 questions and make them learn about the consequences. Though… They need to do the right thing. Once their account is gone, and it turns out they would have liked to delete more (or less), that’s not really possible any more (without manual admin intervention). So maybe it’s down to: delete everything in any case, and accept that it has a negative effect on the content on the platform.

It also has to be balanced with handling abuse etc since malicious actors use the same features to cover their tracks.

But I’m probably getting way ahead of where we are. OP said deletion doesn’t even propagate through the federated network correctly. So realistically, we probably don’t need to bother with the details several steps down the line.

Heheh. Sure. If I’m not at home, my sex-toys are up another stranger’s bum. It made no sense for us to own anything anymore. My brain implant keeps me indifferent and drugged. Consuming and obedient… I’m happy.

Good use-case. Would it suffice to “unlink” the information in that case, instead of deleting it? I think that’d solve both problems. The posts and comments would stay in place for everyone to keep using them, but it’d say “by [deleted user]”, so it’s forgotten that you (or someone) wrote it.

I’m not sure. And we somehow need to present that to the user without overwhelming them with several options, delete account without data, delete account and unlink content, delete account and content…

Hmmh, not sure if I’m experiencing a Déjà vu, or if this is just because I’ve talked to some people who were complaining about some aspect of the platform and saying they’re going to quit. Anyways, I wish that you’re somehow going to find what you’re looking for. Whether it’s on this platform or somewhere else.

Seems to me like you’re having an on-and-off relationship. And those often turn out to be… difficult?

Thanks, and I happen to already be aware of it. It doesn’t have any of that. And it’s more complicated to hook it into other things, since the good old postfix is the default case and well-trodden path. I think I’ll try Stalwart anyways. It’s a bit of a risk, though. Since it’s a small project with few developers and the future isn’t 100% certain. And I have to learn all the glue in between the mailserver stuff, since there aren’t any tutorials out there. But both the frontend, and the configuration and setup seem to make sense.

Out of curiosity: What’s a reason to delete all the content? I don’t want to imply you shouldn’t be able to do so… But I often find it very annoying when people delete large quantities of stuff. Because that also deletes the comments I made, which took me time to write. It deletes my bookmarks. And sometimes people wipe their history regularly, which removes technical questions along with the correct answers and other material that might prove useful to other people, if it weren’t deleted… And I had things that I’d have liked to return to, vanish into thin air multiple times now.

I’d like to understand the perspectives and two sides of that coin. And since you say you’d like to delete content, I thought I’d ask about your perspective and the why…

I’ve always been looking for an all-in-one mailserver with a few added features like mailing lists and something like AnonAddy (anonymous mail forwarding). Sadly there doesn’t seem anything like that out there. So I have to configure postfix and dovecot myself. Or make ends meet with a bit more basic features.

Maybe try McDonald’s workers for further research, if it’s the constant and annoying beeping of machines. Or any Japanese store where you get 3 songs blaring at the same time from different aisles, then there’s some offering on a seperate stand, of course also blinking and begging for attention with additional sounds… I believe you can simulate 10 years of UK longterm exposure with a one day trip to Japan.

Wear a mask. Or a helmet.

Uh, really depends on the type of book, what kind of noise it is, and how concentrated I am. I don’t think I can do it early in the morning or after a long day. I have some amount of tolerance when my brain is still well off. But there’s certainly a limit. And it’s different on each train. The people who commute to and from work are often considerate. But once I’m directly in between a group of people who talk to each other, I put away my book and switch to music, or doom-scrolling on my phone. But I’ve read quite some things at various places and on the train. So it can’t be too hard for me.

Most backup software allow you to configure backup retention. I think I went with some pretty standard once per day for a week. After that they get deleted, and it keeps just one per week of the older ones, for one or two months. And after that it’s down to monthly snapshots. I think that aligns well with what I need. Sometimes I find out something broke the day before yesterday. But I don’t think I ever needed a backup from exactly the 12th of December or something like that. So I’m fine if they get more sparse after some time. And I don’t need full backups more than necessary. An incremental backup will do unless there’s some technical reason to do full ones.

But it entirely depends on the use-case. Maybe for a server or stuff you work on, you don’t want to lose more than a day. While it can be perfectly alright to back up a laptop once a week. Especially if you save your documents in the cloud anyway. Or you’re busy during the week and just mess with your server configuration on weekends. In that case you might be alright with taking a snapshot on fridays. Idk.

(And there are incremental backups, full backups, filesystem snapshots. On a desktop you could just use something like time machine… You can do different filesystems at different intervals…)

Seems it means all together. (5600MT/s / 1000) x 2 sticks simultaneously x 64bit / 8bits/Byte = 89.6 GB/s

or 2933/1000 x 4 x 64bit / 8 = 93.9 GB/s

so they calculated with double the DDR bus width in the one example, and 4 times the bus width in the other one. That means dual or quad channel is already factored in in those numbers. And yes, the old one seems to be slightly better than the new one. At least regarding memory throughput. I suppose everything else has been improved on. And you need to put in 4 correct RAM sticks to make use of it in the first place.