• JackbyDev@programming.dev
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    foot the bill directly

    I WISH. I genuinely wish they’d let me bid on my own ad break. But they don’t. It’s either pay an insane monthly subscription fee or see ads. If you’re letting advertisers bid on my time, let me! Let me offer to pay the .01 cents or whatever to not see an ad. But they won’t do it. I’m a little surprised I don’t see people talk about this being an alternative.

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    I got my first ever “YouTube doesn’t allow ad blockers” message on YouTube today. I hit the reload button and my ad blocker caught up and blocked that shit. How’s that approach going for you YouTube? I’d sooner stop using YouTube than watch it with ads.

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    I swear, YouTube uses the camera on my phone/tablet to detect if I am facing the screen or not. It doesn’t have ‘permission’ to do access the camera, but the behavior is too consistent to be a coincidence.

    I can’t fall asleep to silence. I have to have something playing to keep me from being alone with my thoughts, or I will literally never sleep. So I watch YouTube videos while Im tying to fall asleep. I skip every ad as soon as it will let me when facing the screen. Every time, and I mean literally every time I turn over so my back is to the screen, YouTube will start playing one of those long ass ads, ones that will go on for 1/2 hr or more if I don’t turn back over and hit ‘skip’. It’s just too consistent to be random.

    The best is when it’s the ad for the stupid ass ‘superhero’ audiobook where the main character is the only person who doesn’t have a superpower and gets picked on, and by picked on I mean they force him to watch as they SA his girlfriend. I have done the thing where you can request they don’t show you that particular ad at least a dozen times now and it never helps.

    I already know that guy will get his superpower eventually. I already know that he will get his revenge on his bullies. Its about the most obvious, 5th grade level writing you could imagine. Nothing about it appeals to me, I hate that fucking ad with a passion.

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      and by picked on I mean they force him to watch as they SA his girlfriend.

      I guarantee you that’s against YouTube’s ad platform’s TOS too.

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      I can’t fall asleep to silence. I have to have something playing to keep me from being alone with my thoughts, or I will literally never sleep.

      I have experienced this. Something that helped me is “cognitive shuffling.” Essentially forcing your thoughts to drift.

      The technique I learned was this:

      Pick a word, preferably one with lots of different letters.

      Start with the first letter. Think of as many objects starting with that letter as you can, and picture them. You don’t need to be rigid about this, and don’t waste time trying to come up with objects if you’re stuck, just move onto the next letter. If you finish the word, pick a new one. But I don’t know that I’ve ever finished a word before falling asleep.

      The idea is this sort of directed but disconnected thinking helps put your mind into the sort of state that lets sleep come. And when I’m diligent about it, it works like a charm. It’s like a way to actively fall asleep.

      Unfortunately because it requires some effort I often don’t do it. But I do recommend it!

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      I’m convinced social media algorithms show you content you choose not to see because they count “don’t show me this again” as engagement.

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      Nebula is awesome. But if you’re going to pay for a video service, you could also pay for YouTube Premium and not get ads regardless of your ad blocking setup, AND support the people whose videos you watch (at least a little, certainly more than ad-supported viewers).

      (Nebula is better than YouTube for specific genres, but YouTube is of course more broad and contains most of what Nebula has.)

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        Sure but Nebula is cheaper than youtube premium AND pays it’s creators more because it’s a platform owned by it’s creators.

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      Every time I’ve tried to use an alternative it hasn’t had anything that grabbed my interest. If you say I’m not looking hard enough, you’ve missed the point of why I’m currently on a short video platform instead of watching a TV show or movie. If I have to look hard you’ve already lost me.

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        yeah, absolutely degenerates rooting for absolute degenerates. it’s like if you took the dumbest people on /b/ and gave them a platform that encourages them to be worse.

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    Some industry people are amazingly entitled about your obligation to participate in their business model. Jack Valenti, a former president of the Motion Picture Association of America, once literally called muting commercials or leaving the room during them “theft of programming”.

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      So im assuming a bunch of people are filming themselves walking out of a room with commercials playing and sending it to him with a big FU in the subject line?

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        Well probably not, since he’s been dead almost 20 years. He made his statement during the Napster era, when copyright was more in the news.

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      What’s frustrating is that they’re finally starting to figure out some way to fight them. Been using it for years and last week or so I kept getting dumbass pop-ups that were both unresponsive and ineffectual as ads. All they did was flash a logo and then freeze the player, very frustrating.

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        I don’t mind sponsorship segments as much. A good content creator finds a way to make those entertaining as well. And if they don’t, a couple presses of the arrow keys does the job.

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          I have sponsorblock but i just have it set to manually skip. Like, if it’s the third time i’ve listened to a sponsored segment on raid shadow legends, i basically have the script memorised. i press enter and it skips and i don’t feel bad cuz i know exactly what they’re going to say.

          also, tomska has really good sponsor bits so, it makes me feel bad to skip

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          A “couple presses of the arrow keys” can overshoot, forcing you to hunt around with the mouse to find the content.

          SponsorBlock has an option to skip the segment with a single button press (instead of auto-skipping). You should give it a try before you judge. It’s really convenient.

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          finally someone who gets it. there are some creators out there who actually make interesting bits out of their sponsorships

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            Maybe there are 5% of channels that produce interesting ads, but:

            • 95% don’t
            • I don’t come there to watch ads, good or bad
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            I think it’s also good to remember that, creators who bake in their sponsorships are USUALLY paid upfront for the space.

            Meaning, just skip that shit if it’s not for you. They already got the money.

            At least, this is how I have come to understand sponsorships.

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              creators who bake in their sponsorships are USUALLY paid upfront for the space.

              Sure, although if they have a promo code they’re usually getting a percentage kickback from that as well. That’s what the whole Honey scandal was about, PayPal injecting affiliate links and stealing commission from the very people they had paid to advertise their service (and also everyone else).

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              It doesn’t affect them getting paid, that’s correct.

              But It does negatively affect their stats which can affect their ability to grow and get that video/their channel seen more. Youtube tracks things like retention and watch %, it matters.

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            I disable Sponsorskip on Some More News because I like watching Cody chug that disgusting looking green stuff. I’m a simple man.

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            Tomska comes to mind as a pretty hilarious example - not just because he turns them into skits, thats normal enough. He had a whole saga trying to figure out how far he could push the boundries of the VPN company sponsoring him before they would start intervening. It started off simple enough, with the South Park philosophy of “Add provocative stuff so they cut that, rather than the jokes we like.” Rather than editting they script, the approved it as is. He thought it was funny, and took that as a challenge. After increasingly crass and violent ads (on-brand for him, and with appropriate content warnings) eventually ended up going so far as to include an ad that even he considers way too far. Said ad later had to be editted out of the video it was included in. In my opinion, despite obviously being very all ads, its collectively some of the funniest content hes made.

            He’s his videos recapping the saga:

            links

            Dear Surfshark, Please Fire Me

            Dear Surfshark, Please Forgive Me

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      For some reason I’ve been getting the “ad blockers violate the terms of service” nag lately on my firefox browser with ublock origin. My Brave browser doesn’t get it though. Any ideas?

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        Youtube/Google is known to bully and lash out against Firefox users first, they use that as a hybrid strategy to make people use Google Chrome more (other market, same corposcum). Not surprised.

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        uBlock isn’t “install and forget”; it needs some initial setup. Add some “filter lists” and overall look what is there in the settings.

        Still, you should think about that self-esteem thing. Why do you still use that site with “ad blockers violate the terms of service” nagging? Do you really need it?

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          I installed it and did the setup and it worked great for many months. Then, in the last few days, something changed, though I made no changes to my browser or ublock. Today it works fine. Yesterday I was getting the nag. I didn’t make any changes from yesterday to today.

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            Youtube did something recently and uBlock had to update in response. I think it was automatically rolled out sometime “last night.”

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            I might be wrong but I think ad blocker warnings show up briefly after YouTube updates its detection methods. They vanish once filter lists catch up. It’s an ongoing cat-and-mouse game.

            To reduce these warnings, update your ad blocker’s filter lists or they’ll eventually they do so automatically.

            Update Filters: In uBlock Origin, open the dashboard, go to the “Filter lists” tab, and click “Update now.” Keeping uBlock itself updated helps too. Clearing cache can sometimes help. I think Firefox has better uBlock support, Chrome is toxic to adblocker integration.

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            Some sites actively try to fight adblockers while adblockers try to block anti-adblocking code on such sites. Most probably you’re watching the process of upgrading anti-adblock scripts on such site.

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        I got that, too, yesterday and the first time I got a helpful pop-up from uBO suggesting I watch in a private window. But simply reloading the page was enough to get the video to play each time it popped up yesterday.

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        Got it today too. I clicked on “fuck you” or something like that, and I went on to watch my ad-free video.

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      This happened to me with Ublock, I guess the cat and mouse game isn’t over

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        Naah. For me both Newpipe on mobile and Freetube on desktop still work fine, aside from rare IP blocks (which can be easily circumvented with a VPN). Going to set up a JellyFin with auto-download for my favourite creators in the future. It’ll work out somehow, like always. Should they go full ham and lock all creators behind some subscription wall or whatever people will just code and set up relays and torrents automatically being fed with new videos to free them, or setting up hundreds of Peertube instances that get auto-filled or sth.

        These big companies can’t win in this regard, especially not now when the tide is already shifting and even the mainstream increasingly starts hating them. The moment large creators see a viable alternative that isn’t as awful (some already post their uncut videos to other platforms only due to all the word censoring etc) they’re screwed, so locking it down and enshittificating it even further is increasingly dangerous for them by now.

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    I’d rather foot the bill directly. I’d rather pay for shit if it costs something. I’d rather the businesses that I do business with work harder to make their products better rather than work harder to make me click on ads.

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      The thing is, ads per user aren’t that profitable for them. They don’t make $20/month from you just watching ads, but they’ll demand that from you to stop watching ads…

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      Unfortunately they seem to make products better until they reach saturation, then they split into tiers, raise prices (and/or lower offerings - looking at you Max) and start introducing ads into paid tiers.

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    Please Drink Verification Can and repeat the following phrase: “Blessed be The Algorithm” to continue watching “Compilation of people falling down #596 FUNNY”