All you’re doing is trying to argue against Democrats because you hated them before israel did what it did. If you supported Democrats before this you wouldn’t be saying shit. Fake moral outrage
You’re right that I’m not a Democrat, and that I have more reasons than their unabashed support for genocide to dislike them. But can’t you see the irony in accusing me of “fake moral outrage” though? Do you simply not believe in morality at all? Or maybe genocide ranks lower on your list of things deserving moral outrage than it does on mine.
All that matters is you would’ve rather trump won despite that hurting Palestinians. So your fraudulent morality isn’t really up for debate is it? You can wax poetic about how you and a small group have morals and others don’t but you know deep down that the only reason you’re saying any of this is your anti-democratic politics. Your words hurt real people in Palestine and you stand behind them and can’t wait to say those same words again. So give me a fucking break
All that matters to you is to believe that I’m a Trump supporter, so you can dismiss my criticisms of your moral bankruptcy. Do you understand the concept of a “principle”? The way I was brought up, there are certain things that you just don’t compromise on. If you begin giving ground on your principles, you’ll soon find you don’t have any left. That’s where your party is, and that’s a huge part of why they have failed to present a credible challenge to Trumpism.
Between my point of view and the newspaper column above, which offers a more actionable path forward? To me, that column reads as pathetic self-indulgence, whereas my message is to morally re-center yourself and demand the same of your political leadership.
You said that I’d rather Trump win. Why should I reflect? I’m not the one still defending a party that just lost an election. Presumably, you want your party to win elections in the future, so I would say that some self reflection is due. I’m trying to point you in what I see as the right direction, but maybe your wounds are still too fresh.
You’re still here bragging about helping trump win. You’re all the same. Every single time you pretend not to understand a two party system. No one believes you. You have zero moral high ground but keep on pretending
You should reflect because it’s the correct thing to do.
What vote would have - even slightly - reduced Palestinian suffering in the short term. What would reduce it in the long term? Have new actions or moves by Israel changed what you thought months ago? Has the incoming administration signalled moves that will change the trajectory, relative to the current admin?
This article/op-ed is about the “American character” or some shit. I think it really bears considering not just the evil bad Trump voters, but that the purported alternative is just as morally bankrupt.
Yes, Israel is responsible for its actions. Are Democrats not also responsible for their actions?
All you’re doing is trying to argue against Democrats because you hated them before israel did what it did. If you supported Democrats before this you wouldn’t be saying shit. Fake moral outrage
You’re right that I’m not a Democrat, and that I have more reasons than their unabashed support for genocide to dislike them. But can’t you see the irony in accusing me of “fake moral outrage” though? Do you simply not believe in morality at all? Or maybe genocide ranks lower on your list of things deserving moral outrage than it does on mine.
All that matters is you would’ve rather trump won despite that hurting Palestinians. So your fraudulent morality isn’t really up for debate is it? You can wax poetic about how you and a small group have morals and others don’t but you know deep down that the only reason you’re saying any of this is your anti-democratic politics. Your words hurt real people in Palestine and you stand behind them and can’t wait to say those same words again. So give me a fucking break
All that matters to you is to believe that I’m a Trump supporter, so you can dismiss my criticisms of your moral bankruptcy. Do you understand the concept of a “principle”? The way I was brought up, there are certain things that you just don’t compromise on. If you begin giving ground on your principles, you’ll soon find you don’t have any left. That’s where your party is, and that’s a huge part of why they have failed to present a credible challenge to Trumpism.
Between my point of view and the newspaper column above, which offers a more actionable path forward? To me, that column reads as pathetic self-indulgence, whereas my message is to morally re-center yourself and demand the same of your political leadership.
Never said or implied that.
And no you aren’t reflecting you’re finger wagging while being the morally heinous self indulger.
You said that I’d rather Trump win. Why should I reflect? I’m not the one still defending a party that just lost an election. Presumably, you want your party to win elections in the future, so I would say that some self reflection is due. I’m trying to point you in what I see as the right direction, but maybe your wounds are still too fresh.
You’re still here bragging about helping trump win. You’re all the same. Every single time you pretend not to understand a two party system. No one believes you. You have zero moral high ground but keep on pretending
You should reflect because it’s the correct thing to do.
What vote would have - even slightly - reduced Palestinian suffering in the short term. What would reduce it in the long term? Have new actions or moves by Israel changed what you thought months ago? Has the incoming administration signalled moves that will change the trajectory, relative to the current admin?
These are all things we need to reflect on
This article/op-ed is about the “American character” or some shit. I think it really bears considering not just the evil bad Trump voters, but that the purported alternative is just as morally bankrupt.