The problem was she wasn’t a choice for a lot of people. That’s something you guys have consistently failed to understand.

For people that actually suffered under the Obama or Biden regime, Harris did not represent a greater future than Trump. If you are given a choice of either shooting yourself, being shit, or ignoring the entire thing while trying to to find a way to survive being shot; most people will choose the latter option, which is simply not voting.

Homelessness hit a record high under Biden, and only climbed throughout his term. Credit card debt soared, yet consumer spending on nonessentials went down. People aren’t worried about the status quo or the collapse of the US, people were worried about tomorrow.

When you have that situation, they don’t give a fuck about a status quo candidate lying to their face about how great the economy is and how much nothing different they’ll be doing.

Their choice was not Harris or trump, their choice was vote or not vote. And given their experience during Biden’s term, they chose to not vote.

Well Harris wasn’t a viable candidate, as proven by her ridiculous loss against one of the most hated men in history.

Same goes for Clinton. And Biden was polling worse than Harris before his handlers finally made him pull out.

So which neoliberal is a viable candidate again?

Are we just going to do the same thing in 2028, with, using your word, a nonviable candidate?

Words written by a socialist to satirize capital based dictatorships might not be the argument against leftists that you think it is.

…leading some of the most disastrous dea and fbi raids in US history is good domestic policy?

He was a boring ‘good’, president if you were upper middle class or higher in a fairly conservative job and a white male. That’s about it. Those were the people that could tune out.

It had a better chance than a rightwing cop trying to get elected to the dem party, or an even more senile Biden.

You can’t run incredibly right wing candidates and expect anyone to vote for them, unless you’re running them in the furthest right party.

Cool, you know you can write in the candidate, right?

In any case if dems wanted to be elected, they could try not being republican. Even in the face of fascism no self respecting person would vote for a republican.

Liberals aren’t ‘non-authoritarians’, you just think you should be able to buy authority and violence instead of being born into that luxury. You want violence in the hands of the rich, not the hands of the people where it belongs.

Sure… But that political theory is still explicitly illegal in the US and can get you imprisoned if you manage to get elected. Barring the obvious, we can’t base our political theory on entirely different material conditions experienced by entirely different people. The number of voters that were alive 60 years ago is miniscule, and the number of voters that voted 60 years ago is going to be less than 1% in the next election.

Even supposing those people were physically still alive their material conditions have changed so dramatically they aren’t the same voters.

By ignoring the change of conditions and change of voters mentality, you set yourself up for ‘surprise’ failures, like clinton in 2016, which all leftists knew clinton would lose.

If you just look at the last four years and the material conditions people face, you’re far less likely to overvalue old elections that have nothing whatsoever in common with modern elections.

Liberals have been the only people in world history to choose fascism over any form of communism, since fascism doesn’t threaten their world view.

This includes the dem party in the US who picked clinton, biden, and harris, three far right shit stains, instead of anyone slightly centrist or left wing.

I’m pretty sure those are used accurately as specific types of fascists.

Anyone else. Throw Bernie’s half animated corpse up there as the candidate. Congrats he would’ve won. Because he wasnt a cop trying to get elected to the anticop party, nor far right economically trying to get elected to the center right party.

Sorry, niceness does not extend to fascists or their enablers due to recent world events. To resubscribe, stop being a cunt.

A) no it wasn’t. The vast majority of healthcare reforms in the EU took place shortly after WWII and explicitly due to the fact fascism was fresh in everyone’s mind so they could just remind everyone of nazi healthcare practices.

B) Assuming you’re on ca due to your location, look up literally anything about native Americans in your country since you failed to learn about it in school (or went to school before courses on actual Canadians were added). Starlight tours still happen to this day and native women still disproportionately ‘go missing.’

Any Canadian that doesn’t know about ‘starlight tours’ at this point is either sheltered or willfully ignorant to the plight of native women in Canada.

Canada has this nice image and all, but they’re still committing genocide.

Just a reminder that communists weren’t the ones to appoint nazis to power; anti communists were. The ones that thought violence is never the answer and we should just vote harder if we don’t want fascists in power.

And everytime those people get power fascists get power shortly after. Maybe it’s not financially funding, but anti’tankies’ are responsible for every instance of fascism taking power. Because equality and equity scares you people.

A) those countries had far less embedded capitalists. They did not reform, they advanced in a linear direction.

B) you’re a north American, half of you are fascists and the other half are conservative Catholics. Don’t you people specifically still kill native women so regularly there’s multiple euphemisms about it?

Anyone basing strategy on the last sixty years instead of the last four is too stupid to be taken seriously. Hence the US’ reputation as he dumbest nation.

Yeah I wonder if there was a reason the communists were fighting both the nazis and ‘social democrats,’ and had to spend more time fighting the larger group that was openly funding the nazis.

A) yes, it is impossible to reform an embedded regime of wealth. You need revolution, which will likely require tanks even in the age of drones.

B) tankie is anything to the left of burning children alive for warmth, at least how it’s used on this site.

Its cute you have your own call out forum for people that disagree with your neoliberal generic beliefs and all; one that only you post to or really participate in bar a few lost /all viewers, but that’s not an argument.

People being upset that their livelihoods are being destroyed while their previous bosses become immeasurably richer while doing even less work were objectively on the right side of history given where it has lead us-- with the greatest wealth disparity in all of known human history, and the most people food and shelter insecure in all of human history.