Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.

Edit: pls do not downvote the comments this is a constructive discussion

Edit2: IP= intellectal property

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  • gregs_gumption@lemm.ee
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    1 day ago

    If you count humans as animals then cocaine and clothing from companies like Temu and Shein aren’t vegan.

    Cocaine manufacturing and distribution is full of human exploitation and suffering. Using it should go against the vegan ethos of avoiding consumption of things that are the product of exploitation. Similar to honey, milk, or eggs.

    Similarly, Shien and Temu make nearly all of their products using slave labor in terrible working conditions using dangerous chemicals without any precautions.

    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 hour ago

      Pretty sure almost every legit vegan is anti-capitalist.

      And while “there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism”, people try to improve. I think that excluding the murder of animals is one of the easiest and most obvious ways to do so.

      I also doubt that vegans are heavily representing for Temu and cocaine or exploitative products in general. Most likely they’re more aware of these issues than the average chud. Definite straw man there.

    • Sasha [They/Them]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Oh I wholeheartedly agree with this.

      Veganism should be based around the fact that there’s no reasonable or meaningful distinction between animals and humans. We should reject animal suffering for exactly the same reasons we seek to end human suffering.

    • WrittenInRed [She/They]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Yeah I avoid chocolate as well for that reason (at least the non fair trade/rainforest alliance, those certifications still have issues but at least they’re an improvement). Coconut products made in Thailand are also typically pretty bad. Unfortunately at the end of the day it’s basically impossible to not consume anything that exploits people or non-human animals at some point down the chain but I do try and avoid the most egregious ones I know about at least.

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      24 hours ago

      Damn that is enlightening.

      We’ve humanised ourselves to the point that we forgot we were animals, and to the point that it’s a bad thing!