Summary
Donald Trump announced new tariffs against China, Mexico, and Canada, sparking market turmoil as the measures were set to begin this weekend.
Following the announcement, major indices plunged, with the Dow Jones, NASDAQ, and S&P 500 suffering significant losses, reflecting investor anxiety across global markets.
Canada, Mexico, and China vowed retaliatory tariffs, with officials warning that these measures could escalate trade conflicts and significantly harm economic stability.
Critics argue the tariffs will harm consumers and businesses, creating global trade uncertainty and risking prolonged economic challenges in the United States.
Here are some numbers to consider.
The US sold $441 billion worth of goods and services to Canada in 2024.
Canada sold $482 billion worth of goods and services to the US in 2024.
The US has a populating of 334.9 million people.
Canada has a population of 40.1 million people.
Per capita, every American man, woman, and child spent $1,316.81 on Canadian goods and services.
Candians spent $12,019. 95 on American good and services.
Who isn’t pulling their weight in this trading relationship?
This isn’t about illegal immigration and it isn’t about the 20 lbs of fentanyl that tried to cross the border from Canada.
This is about the billionaire class raising taxes on the poor and raising prices for Americans.
The listed indices dropped an amount within the standard range that they regularly fluctuate. The dow is still up from where it was on january 1st. The same can be said for nasdaq and the s&p. Stocks are continuing to trend upward unabated, but they do wiggle as they do so.
Don’t ever trust the news when they say the market “plummets.” They use that term incredibly misleadingly. The lines on the charts wiggle constantly. When something bad happens some hack news sites will find a minor downward wiggle near the same time and they’ll claim causation and pretend that something significant happened to the markets, to drive clicks to their website.
The fact that most of the comments are taking the headline at face value is not a good sign.
plummets
The post was about the futures which are down a whopping 1.6%
So yeah, market might open at the same price it did last week.
The article even mentions specifically the Dow Jones and S&P 500. Both of which are up this week by amounts that completely offset those future losses. I honestly have no clue what the article is talking about, it doesn’t seem to conform with trivial-to-search reality. We are just where we were last week, a place that is massively up over any notable time period before.
I can’t believe it dropped 20% over… ooops I had the chart upside down my mistake
Could this finally be the term that Trump speedruns the economy crash so the Republicans can be properly blamed for it happening due to their policies and leadership, rather than the Dems always inheriting a timebomb and wasting a whole ass term fixing it?
Trump is already running with the line that the helicopter/plane collision was somehow Biden’s fault, even though Trump and “Justin Hammer” fucked with the FAA. That’s probably why they are speedrunning this collapse, they want to claim they inherited a mess, and shift blame for the consequences of their actions.
Which is one of two reasons why they keep screeching this “DEI Hires did 9/11!” nonsense
- It’s the only card they have for claiming Biden is responsible for Trump’s blunders
- It’s to manufacture consent for Trump’s plan to repeal the Civil Rights Act “in the interest of public safety”
The FAA’s diversity hiring programs under Biden were the same as they were under Trump.
Critics argue the tariffs will harm consumers and businesses, creating global trade uncertainty and risking prolonged economic challenges in the United States.
God damn it media, can’t we just call a fucking spade a spade. Anyone with a fucking functional brain knows these tariffs will harm consumers and businesses. “Critics,” my ass. Informed people, more like.
It’s this kind of shit that allowed us to get here to begin with, an unwillingness to just say the painful, obvious truth and speak it to power.
It will harm consumers and small businesses way more than it will harm the big corporations. And that’s exactly the goal: consolidate the government by crippling their biggest enemy in the middle-class. It’s how fascism operates: make sure only your supporters survive.
I really think this is wrong. These moves arguably harm large business even more than small ones because the complex supply chains that go into most large corporations’ goods are getting totally fucked by these tarrifs and the supplier agreements locking them probably more often than not do not give them a clear out for situations where the dumbest motherfuckers in the country elected their chief dumb motherfucker into the highest seat.
Regardless, the ones most hurt by this are consumers, and especially those without the means and/or ability accommodate this fuckery.
The complex supply chains are just as important for small businesses, but the small businesses have no leverage and are powerless to do anything about them.
There are lots of good opinion pieces out there that satisfy your needs in that regard, but at its core, journalism should just be taking sources and presenting it in a way that people can read easily. Newspapers usually dont claim anything themselves, they just repeat claims made by other people. Thats not a bad thing, thats just how this works.
It is a bad thing to platform viewpoints that are incorrect or that shouldn’t be spread
I’m looking at both the dow and the nasdaq, and they look fine. Where is this “plummet” the article is referring to? Not that I think the tariffs are good, but let’s be truthful.
0.01% drop = plummet
0.01% rise = soar
It’s the law of finance headline writing
Not exactly what I would classify as a plummet, but we were seeing green numbers for the day and then they subsequently turned down once this was announced.
Still too early to say whether we’re going to be looking at any form of sharp downturn.
Starting just after 11 AM EST, the S&P went down over 1%. It’s not a steep plunge; that kind of swing happened on Monday for AI, too, IIRC.
Right? -0.5% yesterday, -1.0% for the week. Totally normal and not deserving of any kind of adjective.
Certainly not saying Lady Trump’s actions won’t kill the stock market, but this ain’t it yet.
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Right. The S and P 500 went down 0.5% yesterday, it’s a pretty typical trading day and still up over the last five days, month, six months and the year.
Trumps a lunatic, but one thing he does understand is business.
Hold on now, that was a NASDAQ loss of nearly 0.75%. If the Americans do that 134 times in a row, all their money will be gone! How would they buy their eggs? /s
(1 - 0.0075)^134 ≈ 36.5%
If you’re going to “well, ACKchyuallllly” someone, it helps to have any idea what you’re talking about.
The DOW “plummeted” 337,47 points from 44.882,13 to 44.544,66, a reduction of ~0,75%. Given the drop wasn’t percentage based but was additionally expressed as a percentage of the previous closing price for context, it would require an additional ~132 similar drops to reach zero.
Now, you’re probably noticing I listed the DOW and ~132 drops here versus NASDAQ and 134 drops prior. That’s because I was making a joke and was not much concerned about details. This is because, unlike certain individuals, I am not one of the most insufferable types of people: the pedant.
Going down less than one percent is the opposite of a ‘plummet.’ It is literally indistinguishable from a normal daily fluctuation.
Furthermore, the market has overall gone up since.
OK but they did fall rapidly, and one can only surmise it’s because of the announcement of more tariffs.
The market is driven by emotion, which is why doing anything other than long term investing is risky. I’m sure the fluctuation was connected to his tariff announcements. You want to see a real fall? Wait until the tariffs become a thing and people realize he’s screwed up a functional system. I wonder how fast one can backtrack such things? If it wasn’t for the harm done to so many people, I’d love to see if it’s a Brexit level mess, or just a temporary hiccup once they reverse course.
Right, absolutely. I’m not saying that Herr Drumpf just kickstarted a recession and neither do I think that’s the claim that the article is trying to make. The market, however, had a very clear reaction to just the MENTION of tariffs. What happens when the details to these tariffs are released? What happens when they are actually implemented?
It will react with more details similarly. Like I said, it’s putting them into place that’s the real hit, and it will be much more than a stock market drop. I suppose tariffs do have a place in some circumstances, but he’s throwing darts, and none of them are stuck in the target.
Darts implies at least some degree of precision. This is just flinging shit wildly in all directions.
DJIA shorts are up 347% seems a lot of people are leaning towards a downside
It didn’t “plummet” lol its less than a 1% change
But we only have 99 left!
Literally this, it’s hard to take this messaging seriously with these kind of declarations
Lololololololololol, fixing worthless Trumper pretending it’s not a big drop because percentages
I didnt say it wasnt a drop. I just am pointing out that it’s not really a “plummet”
And I’m the opposite if a trumper lol
It’s dropped to where it was on Thursday. We’ve had 4 bigger drops in the last month and it’s still up compared to where it was a month ago.
Donald Trump is such a fucking loser. An absolute grifter and would be better in the ground than breathing.
Fuck Donald Trump and his band of loser magas.
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Are egg prices plummeting?
Where are all of the “I’m worried about the economy” voters at? Come on be loud and proud!
And yet he is left alone to do it all. The world has truly given up on itself when such obvious shit is allowed to run unchecked.
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Dow…drop…450 points
That’s 1%. Which means we are pretty much at a wash for the last week. Pretty minimal.
The best stock market.
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50 States, 50 Protests, 1day
Feb 5 @ your downtown.
Looks like the link was taken down…
It opened for me.
On Facebook…really?!!
Bro do you think a protest is going to happen by posting it on lemmy
You’re 100% correct. Do i have to be happy about it? 💩
it’s also on not Facebook
‘Significant losses’ being 30 points?
Yeah these people know jack shit about market variations.
MAGA must be beside themselves with all this…. winning.
